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		<description><![CDATA[<br /><br />Its amazing the perceptions of human kind. Human beings it seem see things from their side and feel 100 % justified and vindicated. Its amazing how perceptions color reality , viewpoints of and rationalizations. The car or auto industry seems to create or attract its own type. Especially at the sales end its all about [...]<br /><br /><br /><br />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its amazing the perceptions of human kind. Human beings it seem see things from their side and feel 100 % justified and vindicated. Its amazing how perceptions color reality , viewpoints of and rationalizations.</p>
<p>The car or auto industry seems to create or attract its own type. Especially at the sales end its all about &#8220;production&#8221;. True the same could be also be said for the financial and insurance industries at the sales and &#8220;marketing &#8221; ends. On top of that the &#8220;best&#8221; ( read highest producing) salesperson is often rewarded with a promotion &#8211; to &#8220;sales manager&#8221; &#8211; a task few have the skills or patience for . Indeed a more administrative bookish type might be a better fit &#8211; than an action orientated &#8211; whats the matter with your guys &#8211; i could do this in a minute type.</p>
<p>In his recent book &#8220;Car Guys &amp; Bean Counters&#8221; Bob Lutz portrays the auto industry &#8211; and its way to ruin in the US &#8211; the debacles , the attitudes and mentalities that got them there. GM it seems was the best ( or in this case ) worst example. Auto dealers would report that overall GM was the &#8220;best&#8221; to deal with. Yet it was full of a whole routine of rules and committees which had to be followed to a tee if anything was done or was to be accomplished. Top heavy it might be referred to in the world of government. In the private sector its called &#8211; a committee structure and &#8220;Yes Men&#8221; management. The system &#8211; not the company or even customers is the first concern and priority. Innovative modern thinkers who think for themselves need not apply and are not welcomed.</p>
<p>Yet several points to begin with. First of all Mr. Lutz has held a very wide range of jobs in different companies across his industry. Indeed at Chrysler he was pieced off with a most substantial buy out package &#8211; complete with helicopter. It this a case of whom you know, not what you know and being able to jump ship from one firm to another before the effects of decisions or policies chosen come to pass ?</p>
<p>Secondly one might remember the example of a previous media darling &#8211; auto industry top exec left to tell takes John Z. Delorean of Deloraine auto fame. Mr. Deloraine wrote a most informative and telling book &#8211; &#8220;<a title="John Delorean Book clear day general motors" href="http://www.amazon.com/Clear-Day-You-General-Motors/dp/0960356207">On a Clear Day You Can See General Motors</a>&#8220;.   This book was more of a telling of tales &#8211; rather than an insightful portrayal of what happened and why. Yet while Mr. Delorean , and indeed the media which saw him as a whistle -blower , it turned out to those who had worked with him at General Motors was among the worst of the examples of G.M. execs of the time who used perks and privileges to excess himself.  One can only say its hard to look in the mirror Moonie.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[<br /><br />The current debacle with the automotive industry provides further insight and introspection into the alleged concepts of management ,lack thereof or cluelessness of both parties involved or both sides of the fence so to say. One the one hand we have the management / effect on the economy viewpoint as portrayed in this letter to [...]<br /><br /><br /><br />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The current debacle with the automotive industry provides further insight and introspection into the alleged concepts of management ,lack thereof or cluelessness of both parties involved or both sides of the fence so to say.</p>
<p>One the one hand we have the management / effect on the economy viewpoint as portrayed in this letter to editor entitled &#8220;Have You Driven a Ford Lately:</p>
<p>As I watch the coverage of the fate of the U.S. auto industry, one alarming and frustrating fact hits me right between the eyes. The fate of our nation&#8217;s economic survival is in the hands of some congressmen who are completely out of touch and act without knowledge of an industry that affects almost every person in our nation. The same lack of knowledge is shared with many journalists whom are irresponsible when influencing the opinion of millions of viewers.<br />
Sen. Richard Shelby of Alabama has doomed the industry, calling it a dinosaur. No Mr. Shelby, you are the dinosaur, with ideas stuck in the &#8217;70s, &#8217;80s and &#8217;90s. You and the uninformed journalist and senators that hold onto myths that are not relevant in today&#8217;s world.<br />
When you say that the Big Three build vehicles nobody wants to buy, you must have overlooked that GM outsold Toyota by about 1.2 million vehicles in the U.S. and Ford outsold Honda by 850,000 and Nissan by 1.2 million in the U.S. GM was the world&#8217;s No. 1 automaker beating Toyota by 3,000 units.<br />
When you claim inferior quality comes from the Big Three, did you realize that Chevy makes the Malibu and Ford makes the Fusion that were both rated over the Camry and Accord by J.D. Power independent survey on initial quality? Did you bother to read the Consumer Report that rated Ford on par with good Japanese automakers.<br />
Did you realize Big Three&#8217;s gas guzzlers include the 33 mpg Malibu that beats the Accord. And for &#8217;09 Ford introduces the Hybrid Fusion whose 39 mpg is the best midsize, beating the Camry Hybrid. Ford&#8217;s Focus beats the Corolla and Chevy&#8217;s Cobalt beats the Civic.<br />
When you ask how many times are we going to bail them out you must be referring to 1980. The only Big Three bailout was Chrysler, who paid back $1 billion, plus interest. GM and Ford have never received government aid.<br />
When you criticize the Big Three for building so many pickups, surely you&#8217;ve noticed the attempts Toyota and Nissan have made spending billions to try to get a piece of that pie. Perhaps it bothers you that for 31 straight years Ford&#8217;s F-Series has been the best selling vehicle. Ford and GM have dominated this market and when you see the new &#8217;09 F-150 you&#8217;ll agree this won&#8217;t change soon.<br />
Did you realize that both GM and Ford offer more hybrid models than Nissan or Honda. Between 2005 and 2007, Ford alone has invested more than $22 billion in research and development of technologies such as Eco Boost, flex fuel, clean diesel, hybrids, plug in hybrids and hydrogen cars.<br />
It&#8217;s 2008 and the quality of the vehicles coming out of Detroit are once again the best in the world.<br />
Perhaps Sen. Shelby isn&#8217;t really that blind. Maybe he realizes the quality shift to American. Maybe it&#8217;s the fact that his state of Alabama has given so much to land factories from Honda, Hyundai and Mercedes Benz that he is more concerned about their continued growth than he is about the people of our country. Sen. Shelby&#8217;s disdain for &#8220;government subsidies&#8221; is very hypocritical. In the early &#8217;90s he was the driving force behind a $253 million incentive package to Mercedes. Plus, Alabama agreed to purchase 2,500 vehicles from Mercedes. While the bridge loan the Big Three is requesting will be paid back, Alabama&#8217;s $180,000-plus per job was pure incentive. Sen. Shelby, not only are you out of touch, you are a self-serving hypocrite, who is prepared to ruin our nation because of lack of knowledge and lack of due diligence in making your opinions and decisions.<br />
After 9/11, the Detroit Three and Harley Davidson gave $40 million-plus emergency vehicles to the recovery efforts. What was given to the 9/11 relief effort by the Asian and European Auto Manufactures? $0 Nada. Zip!<br />
We live in a world of free trade, world economy and we have not been able to produce products as cost efficiently. While the governments of other auto producing nations subsidize their automakers, our government may be ready to force its demise. While our automakers have paid union wages, benefits and legacy debt, our Asian competitors employ cheap labor. We are at an extreme disadvantage in production cost. Although many UAW concessions begin in 2010, many lawmakers think it&#8217;s not enough.<br />
Some point the blame to corporate management. I would like to speak of Ford Motor Co. The company has streamlined by reducing our workforce by 51,000 since 2005, closing 17 plants and cutting expenses. Product and future product is excellent and the company is focused on one Ford. This is a company poised for success. Ford product quality and corporate management have improved light years since the nightmare of Jacques Nasser. Thank you Alan Mulally and the best auto company management team in the business.<br />
The financial collapse caused by the secondary mortgage fiasco and the greed of Wall Street has led to a $700 billion bailout of the industry that created the problem. AIG spent nearly $1 million on three company excursions to lavish resorts and hunting destinations. Paulson is saying no to $250 billion foreclosure relief and the whole thing is a mess. So when the Big Three ask for 4 percent of that of the $700 billion, $25 billion to save the country&#8217;s largest industry, there is obviously oppositions. But does it make sense to reward the culprits of the problem with $700 billion unconditionally, and ignore the victims?<br />
As a Ford dealer, I feel our portion of the $25 billion will never be touched and is not necessary. Ford currently has $29 billion of liquidity. However, the effect of a bankruptcy by GM will hurt the suppliers we all do business with. A Chapter 11 bankruptcy by any manufacture would cost retirees their health care and retirements. Chances are GM would recover from Chapter 11 with a better business plan with much less expense. So who foots the bill if GM or all three go Chapter 11? All that extra health care, unemployment, loss of tax base and some forgiven debt goes back to the taxpayer, us. With no chance of repayment, this would be much worse than a loan with the intent of repayment.<br />
So while it is debatable whether a loan or Chapter 11 is better for the Big Three, a $25 billion loan is definitely better for the taxpayers and the economy of our country.<br />
So I&#8217;ll end where I began on the quality of the products of Detroit. Before you, Mr. or Ms. Journalist continue to misinform the American public and turn them against one of the great industries that helped build this nation, I must ask you one question. Before you, Mr. or Madam Congressman vote to end health care and retirement benefits for 1 million retirees, eliminate 2.5 million of our nation&#8217;s jobs, lose the technology that will lead us in the future and create an economic disaster including hundreds of billions of tax dollars lost, I ask this question not in the rhetorical sense. I ask it in the sincere, literal way. Can you tell me, have you driven a Ford lately?<br />
Jim Jackson<br />
Elkins</p>
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<p>all very true and valid points.   It can be said that truthfully did the American consumer not think in any way or manner that since the automotive industry was such a bullwark of the American and North American economy that by buying Toyotas etc that in some way this was shortsighted and would come back to haunt them.</p>
<p>It is true that the foreign automakers do have American / Canadian plants and that the vehicles are &#8220;made in North America&#8221;.  On the other hand though &#8211; the big paying jobs are still back home in the country of ownership/ origin.  In addition one only has to look under the hook for foreign labels ( in foreign languages &#8211; and not Spanish) to understand that many , if not most of the more expensive non- sheet metal components , are not made &#8220;here&#8221;.  Secondly the real high paying jobs &#8211; management , designers etc are not in the US .  For the most part the screwdriver assembly plants are mainly hiring laborers here , that are new and young with few health care problems and lower insurance costs.  There are some &#8220;white faces&#8221;  to appear in management and at the dealerships but these are still predominantly foreign made vehicles in an industry on which the basis of the American economy is based on &#8211; whether it is in actual manufacturing or in support services &#8211; be they repair , parts , maintenance etc.</p>
<p>These points are all true .  However some are misstated or misconstrued .  Whether these are half truths told as spin or are actually believed that is all unknown, indeterminable and debatable.</p>
<p>Contrast this by an actual email sent around by a &#8220;used car dealer&#8221;  who felt that he was getting the short end of the stick always:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: x-small;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">WHAT AN EYE  OPENER!!!</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt; margin-left: 0.5in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">According to Forbes: </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Labor cost per hour, wages and benefits for  hourly workers. </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Ford: $70.51 ($141,020 per year) </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">GM: $73.26 ($146,520 per year) </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Chrysler: $75.86 ($151,720 per year) </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Toyota</span></span>, Honda, Nissan (in  U.S.): $48.00 ($96,000 per year)</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">According to AAUP and IES, the average  annual compensation for a college professor in 2006 was $92,973 (average salary  nationally of $73,207 + 27% benefits). </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Bottom Line: The average UAW worker with a  high school degree earns 57.6% more compensation than the average university  professor with a Ph.D., and 52.6% more than the average worker at Toyota, Honda or Nissan. </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Many industry analysts say the Detroit  Three, must be on par with Toyota and Honda to survive. This year&#8217;s  contract, they say, must be &#8220;transformational&#8221; in reducing pension and health  care costs. </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt; margin-left: 0.5in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">What would  &#8220;transformational&#8221; mean? One way to think about &#8220;transformational&#8221; would mean  that UAW workers, most with a high school diploma, would have to accept  compensation equal to that of the average university professor with a PhD. </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Then there&#8217;s the &#8220;Job Bank&#8221; </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">When a D3 (Detroit 3 carmaker) lays an employee off, that  employee continues to receive all benefits &#8211; medical, retirement, etc., etc.,  PLUS an hourly wage of $31/hour. </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Here&#8217;s a typical story&#8230;. </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Ken Pool is making good money. On weekdays,  he shows up at 7 a.m. at Ford Motor Co.&#8217;s Michigan Truck Plant in Wayne, signs in, and then  starts working &#8212; on a crossword puzzle. Pool hates the monotony, but the pay is  good: more than $31 an hour, plus benefits. </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">&#8220;We just go in and play crossword puzzles,  watch videos that someone brings in or read the newspaper,&#8221; he says. &#8220;Otherwise,  I just sit.&#8221; </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt; margin-left: 0.5in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Pool is one of more  than 12,000 American autoworkers who, instead of installing windshields or  bending sheet metal, spend their days counting the hours in a jobs bank set up  by Detroit  automakers as demanded by the United Auto Workers Union &#8211; UAW &#8211; as part of an  extraordinary job security agreement. </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Now the D3 wants Joe Taxpayer to pick up  this tab in a $25 Billion bailout package &#8211; soon to be increased to $45 Billion  if Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton have their way. </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">The &#8220;Big 3&#8243; want this money &#8211; not to build  better autos. No. They want it to pay the tab for Medical and Retirement  benefits for RETIRED auto workers. Not ONE PENNY would be used to make them more  competitive, or to improve the quality of their cars. </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">We ALL have problems paying for our Medical  Insurance &#8211; but the Democrat leaders in Congress now want us to pay the Medical  Insurance premiums of folks who have RETIRED from Ford, GM and Chrysler. </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Not a good deal for us. </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt; margin-left: 0.5in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">How about Chapter 11  &#8211; and getting rid of these ridiculous union contracts? </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt; margin-left: 0.5in; margin-right: 0in;">The interesting point of this exercise is to illustrate how both management and workers are to blame for the current debacle.  Its not unlike the hosuing crunch. No one told the home buyers to buy these large expensive homes which they could not afford at some point.   Yet the homeowners int rouble blame everyone but themslves .  Look in the mirror.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt; margin-left: 0.5in; margin-right: 0in;">Its similar in the auto industry.   Mangement begs for money so we can have more of the same. As management downsized their companies to almost shells -  they rewarded themselves big time for a &#8220;job well done&#8221;.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt; margin-left: 0.5in; margin-right: 0in;">Workers on the other hand have never offered pay cuts to any degree.  Instead of being grateful for high pay and benefits for a job that many say they were being vastly overpaid for and are anything but gratefull for being on the good end of stick.   Many are resentful and actually blame the company &#8221; and the fat cats&#8221;  and will tell you that the guy ( they cannot even remember the name of Mr. Moore) was right abotu those &#8220;fat cats above&#8221;.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt; margin-left: 0.5in; margin-right: 0in;">Its not unlike the bumper stick on cars &#8221; If you are complaining about the armer or farmers don&#8217;t do this with your mouth full&#8221;.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt; margin-left: 0.5in; margin-right: 0in;">Look in mirror boys.  With tariff levels you were protected in the past.  Welcome to life.  You abused the American consumer long enough.</p>
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		<title>Cuurent Management Compotence at Chrysler Corp &#8211; A New Issue and Concern in 2008  ?</title>
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